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	<description>Aiya! Periannath.com is a weblog for the genuine Tolkien aficionado.  There are no 13-year-old Orlando Bloom fans here. Get news and features about the writings, the legendarium, the languages, collectibles and games, and yes, the movies.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Tolkien 101: Tom Bombadil by Isaac Lemarr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isaac Lemarr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 05:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with fantasywind. the movie left a BIG plot-hole hanging wide open by not including Tom Bombadil, or at least giving SOME background to the nameless, &quot;orc-killing Noldorin daggers&quot; given to Merry and Pippin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with fantasywind. the movie left a BIG plot-hole hanging wide open by not including Tom Bombadil, or at least giving SOME background to the nameless, &#8220;orc-killing Noldorin daggers&#8221; given to Merry and Pippin</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why doesn&#8217;t Frodo just ride an eagle to Mount Doom? by David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2013 11:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope..they should have just flown the eagles..

But really...Tolkien shouldn&#039;t have introduced them at all... Case closed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope..they should have just flown the eagles..</p>
<p>But really&#8230;Tolkien shouldn&#8217;t have introduced them at all&#8230; Case closed</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why doesn&#8217;t Frodo just ride an eagle to Mount Doom? by Micah</title>
		<link>http://periannath.com/feature/why-doesnt-frodo-just-ride-an-eagle-to-mount-doom/comment-page-1/#comment-828</link>
		<dc:creator>Micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 07:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the typo</description>
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		<title>Comment on Why doesn&#8217;t Frodo just ride an eagle to Mount Doom? by Micah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 07:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love LOTR. Great books , good movies. If you put this much time I to discussing them you have to much time. Get a job and be productive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love LOTR. Great books , good movies. If you put this much time I to discussing them you have to much time. Get a job and be productive.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tolkien 101: Tom Bombadil by sme0149</title>
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		<dc:creator>sme0149</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2013 21:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if Bombadil is pointless (arguendo, as attorneys say), what is Beorn for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if Bombadil is pointless (arguendo, as attorneys say), what is Beorn for?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why doesn&#8217;t Frodo just ride an eagle to Mount Doom? by Izzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Izzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2013 00:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The amount of times I&#039;ve had to explain all this to people...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The amount of times I&#8217;ve had to explain all this to people&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why doesn&#8217;t Frodo just ride an eagle to Mount Doom? by fantasywind</title>
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		<dc:creator>fantasywind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting another point of view that searches for easier ways :). The proposed route is dangerously in range of sight from Barad-dur it&#039;s just crossing betwenn it and Orodruin so Sauron would rather notice when he would look towards the Black Gate. Well some of the other points on the sean crist site are also not exactly what I would agree with. First Ered Lithui or Ashen Mountains must have took it&#039;s name from somewhere and thus it means lots of ash and fumes of Orodruin high in the air and winds specifically direct it towards this mountain range to accumulate. Middle Earth is after all a world where normal laws of physic and nature work, birds especially so large as Great Eagles would quickly choke from it and their morality is sometimes questioned in The Hobbit we&#039;re told that many eagles are not so nice as most think they are this gives a a debatable matter of their resistance to the rings inmfluence (not to mention that near Orodruin NOBODY would have the strength of will to destroy it even in short time):
,,Eagles are not kindly birds. Some are cowardly and cruel. But the ancient race of the northern mountains were the greatest of all birds; they were proud and strong and noble-hearted.&quot; The said group can be better but they still have wild nature and flaws of character. 

Also Gwaihir himself states that he can carry burdens many leagues but not for long.

Speed of fell beast is also described as ,,faster than any wind&quot; so the Eagles outmatching them is not so certain (Gandalf in his words only expresses desire to try be faster than them). Frodo and Sam rescue is not fully described but I bet they didn&#039;t fly so high as to be unnoticed from ground because eruption would relese more dangerous poisonous fumes and ash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting another point of view that searches for easier ways :). The proposed route is dangerously in range of sight from Barad-dur it&#8217;s just crossing betwenn it and Orodruin so Sauron would rather notice when he would look towards the Black Gate. Well some of the other points on the sean crist site are also not exactly what I would agree with. First Ered Lithui or Ashen Mountains must have took it&#8217;s name from somewhere and thus it means lots of ash and fumes of Orodruin high in the air and winds specifically direct it towards this mountain range to accumulate. Middle Earth is after all a world where normal laws of physic and nature work, birds especially so large as Great Eagles would quickly choke from it and their morality is sometimes questioned in The Hobbit we&#8217;re told that many eagles are not so nice as most think they are this gives a a debatable matter of their resistance to the rings inmfluence (not to mention that near Orodruin NOBODY would have the strength of will to destroy it even in short time):<br />
,,Eagles are not kindly birds. Some are cowardly and cruel. But the ancient race of the northern mountains were the greatest of all birds; they were proud and strong and noble-hearted.&#8221; The said group can be better but they still have wild nature and flaws of character. </p>
<p>Also Gwaihir himself states that he can carry burdens many leagues but not for long.</p>
<p>Speed of fell beast is also described as ,,faster than any wind&#8221; so the Eagles outmatching them is not so certain (Gandalf in his words only expresses desire to try be faster than them). Frodo and Sam rescue is not fully described but I bet they didn&#8217;t fly so high as to be unnoticed from ground because eruption would relese more dangerous poisonous fumes and ash.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why doesn&#8217;t Frodo just ride an eagle to Mount Doom? by Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of this invalidates that it&#039;s a plothole. It could conceivably be that Manwe has no interest in intervening at this point, but the fact of the matter is that that is not mentioned--more poignantly, it&#039;s not brought up as an option at the Council of Elrond (to be dismissed), even though they clearly considered every other possible option. I feel like this link here sums it up pretty well: http://www.sean-crist.com/personal/pages/eagles/index.html

As far as &quot;out-smarting Tolkein&quot; from the comment above--that&#039;s a pretty narrow way to think about it. These books are enormous in scope, and they only scratch the surface of the monster world-building exercise that is Middle Earth. If there&#039;s one plothole, I think it would be unreasonable to look down on Tolkein for it. But that doesn&#039;t mean there isn&#039;t a plothole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of this invalidates that it&#8217;s a plothole. It could conceivably be that Manwe has no interest in intervening at this point, but the fact of the matter is that that is not mentioned&#8211;more poignantly, it&#8217;s not brought up as an option at the Council of Elrond (to be dismissed), even though they clearly considered every other possible option. I feel like this link here sums it up pretty well: <a href="http://www.sean-crist.com/personal/pages/eagles/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.sean-crist.com/personal/pages/eagles/index.html</a></p>
<p>As far as &#8220;out-smarting Tolkein&#8221; from the comment above&#8211;that&#8217;s a pretty narrow way to think about it. These books are enormous in scope, and they only scratch the surface of the monster world-building exercise that is Middle Earth. If there&#8217;s one plothole, I think it would be unreasonable to look down on Tolkein for it. But that doesn&#8217;t mean there isn&#8217;t a plothole.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tolkien 101: Samwise Gamgee by al</title>
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		<dc:creator>al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 03:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he is my favorite character here... well,  he&#039;s hobbit of courage and loyalty. he might have gone with Frodo in Haven if  he had no Rosie. the movie really justified his character...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he is my favorite character here&#8230; well,  he&#8217;s hobbit of courage and loyalty. he might have gone with Frodo in Haven if  he had no Rosie. the movie really justified his character&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Of Course Hobbits Have to be White by fantasywind</title>
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		<dc:creator>fantasywind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tolkien in words of Gandalf said  that he ,,pity even his (Sauron&#039;s) slaves&quot;, that some easterlings ,,were worthy folk&quot;, that term Men of Darkness did not apply to race or skin color or any cultural trait or language. Hey, John Giannakouris you know that even Sauron was not evil from the beginning nor orcs are totally irredeemable? Sauron started with good intentions:
&quot;and was not indeed wholly evil, not unless all reformer who want to hurry up with reconstruction and reorganization are wholly evil, even before pride and the lust to exert their will eat them up.&quot; (Letter no. 153, The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien)

&quot;He had gone the way of all tyrants: beginning well, at least on the level that while desiring to order all things according to his own wisdom he still at first considered the (economic) well-being of the inhabitants of the Earth.&quot; (Letter no. 183, The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien). Orcs also show some good qualities and tolkien considered that calling them irredemably bad is ,,going too far&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tolkien in words of Gandalf said  that he ,,pity even his (Sauron&#8217;s) slaves&#8221;, that some easterlings ,,were worthy folk&#8221;, that term Men of Darkness did not apply to race or skin color or any cultural trait or language. Hey, John Giannakouris you know that even Sauron was not evil from the beginning nor orcs are totally irredeemable? Sauron started with good intentions:<br />
&#8220;and was not indeed wholly evil, not unless all reformer who want to hurry up with reconstruction and reorganization are wholly evil, even before pride and the lust to exert their will eat them up.&#8221; (Letter no. 153, The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien)</p>
<p>&#8220;He had gone the way of all tyrants: beginning well, at least on the level that while desiring to order all things according to his own wisdom he still at first considered the (economic) well-being of the inhabitants of the Earth.&#8221; (Letter no. 183, The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien). Orcs also show some good qualities and tolkien considered that calling them irredemably bad is ,,going too far&#8221;.</p>
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